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Sun May 24, 2009 8:37 pm
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I've never seen a cheater quite so stupid in GM before. The things is - he can bid for you, and he can roll the dice for you. He rarely uses the second option though. I mean.. his cheating is so damn easy to spot that it's almost funny. When I tried to talk to him/her about it and said I will report, he acted like he didn't even understand what I was talking about etc. I just played him about 15-20 minutes ago, at 23:15? it was originally a 3p game but the first player left right after the game had begun. I don't actually know if this kind of cheating is as easy to spot as I first thought, for mods, or even checkable. Even if it's not, just play with him, when possible, and if you c him cheating , come and post it here. I think you probably haven't heard much about this guy yet, as his points are just over 3000.

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Sun May 24, 2009 8:38 pm
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what do you mean "he can bid for you"?
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Sun May 24, 2009 8:42 pm
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Yiles wrote:
what do you mean "he can bid for you"?


Well, let's say I open the bidding for the water extracor. We start bidding and everything is fine. Then at 1250 for example I take a breather and he bids for me (1250 -> 1280). He can then let me buy it for 1280 or go on bidding.
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Sun May 24, 2009 8:45 pm
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you mean he's taken over your computer? or your acct?
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Sun May 24, 2009 8:49 pm
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Eh? Im saying that he's a cheater who can control your moves during the game, also do them for you. If that's what you meant by taking over my account, then possibly- yes. It's kinda hard to explain as I've never seen anything like it before.
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Sun May 24, 2009 9:03 pm
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That's a new one
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Sun May 24, 2009 10:12 pm
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Bill will have to check this one. I have never heard of someone being able to bid or roll for you and dont see how it is possible.
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Sun May 24, 2009 10:18 pm
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The game was with you under username of skruf? Is that right?
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Sun May 24, 2009 10:50 pm
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Receive, firstly I do not ban players for months, certainly not without evidence that's for sure.
Secondly I see nothing in the chat other than you saying islandking has been reported before, but I can't find that on a search. So am I missing something here?

You are reporting that either the player has hacked into your computer in order to take control of your bidding and rolling dice. Or that he/she some how managed to hack into the game.

Now this is quite some report, which if verified would of course carry the biggest punishment going for hacking software or players.

I am though puzzled how the player is still losing games with such hacking ability?

More info is needed I think.

Although if this is a hoax complaint I do feel maybe the reporter should be held accountable.

We shall see if Bill has any thoughts, or if further reports come in.
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Sun May 24, 2009 11:09 pm
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well i was in a 5p just bought 3rd red had no connection problems...start was still 200 plus and wham i was kicked out of game.

i say kicked as i ended up back in lobby. it was not a dc and my gut instinct made me feel it was more of a kick than anything else. i have spoken to other players (about 3/4 ) and they say same thing happened to them.

now there is either a bug in the game or someone is playing silly buggers...i tend to lean toward a bug in game. so i can understand receive saying something strange is going on
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Sun May 24, 2009 11:54 pm
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Helen, on your problem, i can only sympathise, as i have been a victim of that myself about 3 or 4 times now, last time being yesterday when i was kicked , and it is ALWAYS AFTER an auction.
it is a bug in the game , and i have emailed kreso 3 times about it now in the last 6weeks asking something to be sorted because about a month ago i had 8 complaints in 3 hours about it.

Now , as for the ''controlling'' of someones pc.
First let me say , i KNOW it is IMPOSSIBLE for it to be done through GM , as it is not a remote device in which you can hack to auto-click players screen,

actually , im not going to explain this , as i feel i could lose alot of you, or just baffle you with b/s but no it is not possible,

I would also like to say this, that anyone who thinks they are bright enough to go through regedit to edit ANY of the basic game commands, like start money etc, will find that the server is one step ahead of them and the game recognises that its structure has been altered and that player auto-matically becomes banned.
This happened 2 years ago where a player was reported as the game started because everyone had usual start money 3500, and this one guy had 10000 cash from the start, this player got kicked and banned straight away by the game itself and then the player came to forum complaining about being banned, FOOl.
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Mon May 25, 2009 1:34 am
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bill the auction was over with and it was not directly after auction by that i mean if i recall correctly it was 2 turns after the auction was held.........it was not my go......i was waiting for someone else to roll but yeah there is definitely a bug in game.i was so po i lost 6k for no reason
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Mon May 25, 2009 5:35 pm
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trace567 wrote:
Receive, firstly I do not ban players for months, certainly not without evidence that's for sure.
Secondly I see nothing in the chat other than you saying islandking has been reported before, but I can't find that on a search. So am I missing something here?

You are reporting that either the player has hacked into your computer in order to take control of your bidding and rolling dice. Or that he/she some how managed to hack into the game.

Now this is quite some report, which if verified would of course carry the biggest punishment going for hacking software or players.

I am though puzzled how the player is still losing games with such hacking ability?

More info is needed I think.

Although if this is a hoax complaint I do feel maybe the reporter should be held accountable.

We shall see if Bill has any thoughts, or if further reports come in.


First of all, I know he hasn't been reported before but I thought that if I said he was, he'd perhaps stop the cheats he is using. The banning for months thing - as the player had low points etc, I thought he probably isn't a long time player and a trusty visitor to the forums. So I again, wanted to 'scare' him in order for him to stop cheating. If he really was a hacker though, I'm afriad he'd probably be a little harder to scare Very Happy Now, it surely isn't a hoax complaint, as I have Nothing against islandking and wish him no harm. So if this problem is not releated to him, I deeply apologize.
Bill sounds really smart and when he says that something like this is impossible in GM, I'd just have to agree. This whole thing is really strange though - if it's a bug of someking or whatever - Why does it only occur while playing against islandking?
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Mon May 25, 2009 5:54 pm
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Roughly how many games have you played with Islandking, just to get an idea if this is a repeated issue or one off strange occurrence. It might be your computer had a delayed response to your own clicks perhaps?
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Mon May 25, 2009 6:25 pm
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thats what i thought possibly trace Razz
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