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diron Moon

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Post subject: cheating in 2p? |
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i just quit a game on 2p
me- levski1914
onlythebrave
the game was tight i was with 4000 cash he had 2000
2 blacks 2 whites me , 2 blacks 2 whites he
no one had possibility to builld exept me on brown as i owned 2 and he on light blue he had 2 of them.
he landed on light blue and at this moment i got dissconection so he buy it cheap, but thats part of the game all this dc's i am ok with that.
I said to him that , and at this moment he offer me strange deal, saying he want green alot. He offer me 1red for 1 green and i pay 1800
I said what is this offer on chat he want and money from me, he said that he is paying the money(1800) , when he told me that i send to him the correct offer that he said ( not a good for him i think) he rejected and send me again the same, so i thing he knows very well what he was offering and if there is cheating on 2 players at all for me thats a cheating. I dont care i lost that game becouse the disconection on the auction i was going to lose anyway but just dont like when people send cheat offers so often.]
the start was around +70 at this time the game time was 16:45 UK time
When I said it was cheat trade offer he ignore me in the chat , that make me feel that he understand he send cheat offer as he said before he dont care beeng reported. |
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Thu May 14, 2009 4:33 pm |
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Post subject: Re: cheating in 2p? |
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diron wrote: | i just quit a game on 2p
me- levski1914
onlythebrave
the game was tight i was with 4000 cash he had 2000
2 blacks 2 whites me , 2 blacks 2 whites he
no one had possibility to builld exept me on brown as i owned 2 and he on light blue he had 2 of them.
he landed on light blue and at this moment i got dissconection so he buy it cheap, but thats part of the game all this dc's i am ok with that.
I said to him that , and at this moment he offer me strange deal, saying he want green alot. He offer me 1red for 1 green and i pay 1800
I said what is this offer on chat he want and money from me, he said that he is paying the money(1800) , when he told me that i send to him the correct offer that he said ( not a good for him i think) he rejected and send me again the same, so i thing he knows very well what he was offering and if there is cheating on 2 players at all for me thats a cheating. I dont care i lost that game becouse the disconection on the auction i was going to lose anyway but just dont like when people send cheat offers so often.]
the start was around +70 at this time the game time was 16:45 UK time
When I said it was cheat trade offer he ignore me in the chat , that make me feel that he understand he send cheat offer as he said before he dont care beeng reported. |
1) The offer was well before me landing on my third light blue.
2) I offered you the false deal only once, not twice as you've said in your statement (that makes it unprovable as a cheat offer, anyone makes mistakes). So it was a mistake on my part. Then, after some time, you offered me the exact same deal as I had requested in the chat but I had re-considered by that time. The reason I did so, is that I just landed on my last light blue, precicely at that moment. Not that it is any of your business, I can change my opinion in-game as I please.
3) I didn't ignore you in the chat at first, I tried to explain the situtation. But in time, I grew tired of your chicken-like intelligence and did ignore you.
4) I did not say that I don't care about beeing reported, I encouraged you to do so.
The fact that you kept on offering me the same trade (which I had requested in the chat b4) over and over again and whining about me wanting it and not accepting now , is a clear sign of desperation and weakness. So in my opinion, you reported this here out of pure frustration. Feel free to say otherwise but to me it matters not. |
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Thu May 14, 2009 4:58 pm |
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diron Moon

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Thats lie again , you had your 3d light blue and than you offer me that cheat trade. that can be checked, and Yes you offer me that 2 times is a prove. |
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Thu May 14, 2009 5:22 pm |
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As a matter of fact , you might be right about something afterall. The trade I offered was not initially meant to rob you, I'll always stick to that. But I remember thinking about sending the trade again after getting my third light blue, cause you had made me quite mad by then with your gibberish. Don't remember if I sent it though, seems I did, if you say so..But who could blame me for not remembering, with the amount of Snus I have used today , you couldn't prolly even move your muscles:X
Can't say that I care though.
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Thu May 14, 2009 5:24 pm |
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diron Moon

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Post subject: no you dont check every offer carefully, you are cheting |
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Receive wrote: | I believe I can enlighten you in this matter. As a matter of fact, I played with the name 'Xoidberg' that day and this actually wasn't meant as a cheat trade. The player 'trys' sent me a considerable number of offers, before I accepted this. At first he offered me like.. 500 in money and 2 browns/2 light blues for my green. I didn't go for it, naturally. But as the game developed further, so did the amount of money in the same offer. The thing was.. when he offered his/her first trades, the trade was built up correctly, meaning that he would have paid me. But then he offered something over 2000 (+ the two browns and blues) and as my chances were weaking, It was a very good deal, I thought. But unfortunaetly I just slided over the offer with my eyes and decided to accept in an instant, never really if it was correctly done or not. So there you have it, 'trys' set up the trade differently this time - I had to pay him 2000 + the one green, that allowed him to complete his set. I quit immideatly after this, out of pure frustration. But everything's good for something - now I check every offer very carefully, before accepting  | |
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Thu May 14, 2009 5:29 pm |
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I was the victim in that one, so.. thanks for posting but...um.. Actually , nvm. I'd rather not say anything as I don't really know what to say to such a donkey.
EDIT: Removed some text 2 times, posting it again in the following post.
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Thu May 14, 2009 5:34 pm |
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diron Moon

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What gives you right to offend people saying they are chicken-likes intelligence?!?
I think everyone here saw who is right neverless that it is your 2nd time cheating as I see.
and saying dunkey now, well hope mods do their work nothing more to add |
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Thu May 14, 2009 5:35 pm |
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judd Planet

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There is no way to cheat in 2p, just seems a trick was tried on cash in the trade. |
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Thu May 14, 2009 5:38 pm |
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That's enough both of you.
I'm very sorry I am having major difficulty accessing the logs right now. You will both have to be patient until either me or another moderator is able to check and report back.
In the mean time please stop arguing over it, it will not help either of you.
And yes judd is correct. However I do see how players can become upset over a trade offer that is unfair even in 2p.
But yes I still intended to check the logs as if proved it was a very bad trade offer, at the least players can be warned about playing unfairly. |
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Thu May 14, 2009 5:43 pm |
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To conclude from my part: Sending a trade in a 1 - 1 duel game should be permitted ALWAYS, if an opponent is dumb enough to accept, it's he's problem. And I think this is the way this game is set up aswell, so even if I did try a trick with cash (which I basically did, after the brainiac had made me angry) there's no way I could be held responsible for 'cheating' lol. I have never cheated and will not plan to in the future.
And diron, I stand by everything I've said about you because it is simply ..true.
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Thu May 14, 2009 5:46 pm |
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I think I said ENOUGH! |
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Thu May 14, 2009 9:58 pm |
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lol 2p cheating this is a 1st
diron its not his fault if you read the trade wrong its also your responsibility to check whether the trade is fair or not when accepting or not accepting you made a mistake in accepting the trade so how can he be blamed he offered you a trade. YOU accepted it so you suffered the error of you decision. but to call him a cheater for your error on accepting the trade is laughable. trades like the one he sent you your proberly best to look carefully at any trades people send you or better make the trade your self to be sure your getting what you want but if anything thanks for the laugh it was very enjooyable reading your post so thanks for the input dude,,, |
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Thu May 14, 2009 10:29 pm |
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Good job I do not find it laughable then isn't it?
As I said before 2p games have never been classed as able to cheat. But I personally don't think it is right for players to abuse that by sending obviously bad trades to kill the other player if accepted.
As it happens the trade was NOT accepted because he spotted it was not right, despite being told it was.
Anyway, whether anything can come of a complaint or not, a person is not stupid for asking opinions or for it to be checked. |
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Thu May 14, 2009 10:36 pm |
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diron Moon

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jaord_b wrote: | lol 2p cheating this is a 1st
diron its not his fault if you read the trade wrong its also your responsibility to check whether the trade is fair or not when accepting or not accepting you made a mistake in accepting the trade so how can he be blamed he offered you a trade. YOU accepted it so you suffered the error of you decision. but to call him a cheater for your error on accepting the trade is laughable. trades like the one he sent you your proberly best to look carefully at any trades people send you or better make the trade your self to be sure your getting what you want but if anything thanks for the laugh it was very enjooyable reading your post so thanks for the input dude,,, |
well jaord if you read that you will see i never accept that offer , my report was not on cheat trade, it was report for cheat trade Offer!
And I check it very carefully and said to him that its funny me giving green and 1800 for red , but than he said he is paying me 1800 not me, i send that offer than to him but he refuse it, and he send me 2nd time the same funny offer . He was lieing in the chat with me. and I am not saying there is cheating on 2 players but that what he did was unfair for sure . |
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Fri May 15, 2009 1:33 am |
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diron
no matter what he said in that chat box it was up to you to make sure you were getting what you wanted you should have re_offered him the deal back thats what I would have done not taken his word for it. he conned you and I'm not disputing that. what I am saying that as trades go its your responsibility to make sure your getting what you want out of the deal by sending him your preferred trade back because you accepted the trade he basicly got away with it if its of any concillation I'll keep an eye out for him and rob his points for you when I next play him in a 2p game let him try his noob tactic on me lol he will have another thing coming |
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