[makro]

please check the game that just ended between quizzy, rouwhorst, deforestation911 and myself as makro. a horrible game with cheat trade offers from deforestation, swearing from rouwhorst and possible teaming.
thanks, makro

[Nilo911]

There was no cheat trading from my side Makro.

[makro]

500 for 3rd white on start 200

[makro]

twice

[Nilo911]

Firstly its base price and I have asked a mod specifically about this and I have been told if it beneficial for both and its above base price the trade is 100% good.3 players where aproximetly at 200 cash and the whole board was upgraded.

Secondly the only one who had cash (about 3k) was me.Thats why cashing in 500 is beneficial for both the one who gets the cash and the one who buys.
Remember the board was upgraded and 3 ppl were at very low cash.
Surviving those rounds determined the way the game continued.

[Nilo911]

I can see why you are complaining..

You didnt like the fact that I took control of the game.

I let everyone to buy cheaply their properties and upgrade them so that I can buy my reds unchallenged.

When I got the red set I had a big advantage from others.I had cash and I was able to buy some whites too.

Its not my fault that the rest spent their money on upgrades early in the game.
Its called the stringing strategy (if I remember correctly).

[MATTIE]

at 175 start and at 40 start

Trade:

From deforestation911 to makro

Cash: -500 for 1 white

whatever your agruement is if you think this is fair


Trade:

From makro to deforestation911 at around 100 start

Cash: -1500 for 2 whites is more than fair as per your theory , so why did you reject it ?

there was one more offer for 600 , totally 3 cheat offers , and i can see it was made very consciously

and considering this

http://galacticmag.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=40137&highlight=nilo911#40137

and also considering the number of mistaken trades done in the past month or so. i have to give you a 50 % point reduction , the next time i see you making ridiculous offers ( esp when done consciously leaking of double standards) , i will be bringing your account back to 1000.

5 day ban for rouwhorst for his language in game.

[makro]

cheers

[Nilo911]

I have done everything I possibly I could inorder to avoid any cheat trades and cheat trade offer.Trace has explained me noumerous times how to judge if its fair or not,but I still get warned ,point reduced every week or so.

I look into everytime if it is beneficial for both players ,if it is base price and the start of the game.

All the trades that have been flagged cheat trade offers have not been accepted and certainly not changed the outcome of the game in the slightest.(leniency wouldnt hurt here)

I understand that the consiquences will be bigger next time that happens.
However note that this wont be be the last time because I cannot understand how that judging is done.

One last thing regarding to the reports that are posted in here:

Im getting cheat trade offers everyday ,but I dont report them inorder not to build up the mods' work!
However Im reported everysingle time and get all these warnings,50%-1000 point reduction.

Take into consideration that mods make mistakes sometimes.Think how difficult is for a new player to adapt to a rule system he doesnt fully understand.

[MATTIE]