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Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:14 am
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MATTIE
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4p game around 0300 hrs gmt

mekdinosaur
RAWYAL ( me)
MsNumbers
josey_wales
dontlike2lose20

dontlike2lose20 played deliberately to block me through the game for hiking the price of a cyan.
he conceded as much in that chat that he wanted to see me last in the game.

start around -175

i traded 2 dark blues and 700 cash for one pink ( giving me a set) from mekdinosaur, for which i was accused of using double standards and effectively killing the other player , right from the trade till the end of game from josey_wales.

He did not try to stop me from buying the dark blue ( infact he opened it )
later , when i landed on pink, he didnt try to outbid me , when he knew that a trade was coming .
after the trade i was accused of taking advantage of the player through the chat , when effectively i gave him an outside chance of coming third. ( with huge credit and cash) , not to mention a set.
He went out at start -750 and i went out at the next round. But i want some clarification to josey_wales on this trade from sims .

thanks
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Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:33 am
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LOL
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Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:43 am
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I notice that Matt conveniently forgot to mention he owned greens on full upgrade...


LOL
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Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:50 am
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first after going through the chat logs it was very much clear dontlike2lose20 was just trying to ruin the game for rawyal & wanted to make sure he comes last
such type of act is not good for the game hence for ruining the game deiberately for someone, dontlike2lose20 is ban for 10 days & strong warning he should not do such thing in future otherwise he may get a longer ban

second about the following trade

trade accepted
game: 434343
game is ranked
2009/12/05 03:31:10
players at start: 5
players alive: 4
start money: -175
roll: 417
game time: 50:24

players:
0 mekdinosaur points: 5600 position:16 cash: 1170 credit: 800
1 RAWYAL points: 7638 position: 9 cash: 1954 credit: 1500
2 MsNumbers points: 6659 position:35 cash: 5212 credit: 750
3 josey_wales points: 7272 position:34 cash: 2334 credit: 280
4 dontlike2lose20 points: 4165 dead

Trade:
From RAWYAL to mekdinosaur
Cash: -800

1 color: 250 @= owner:3 h:5 Nanobot Hospital
2 color: 150 @= owner:3 tot:3 Information Network
3 color: 250 @= owner:3 h:5 Cellular Regeneration
5 color: 194 @= owner:2 tot:3 Water Extractors
6 color: 249 @= owner:0 h:5 Terraforming Facilities
8 color: 249 @= owner:0 h:5 Rain Generators
9 color: 249 @= owner:0 h:5 Hydroponics Bay
11 color: 248 @= owner:0 h:4 Emotion Market
12 color: 248 @= owner:0 h:4 Brainplug Reality Center
13 color: 248 @= owner:0 h:4 Holo Dome
14 color: 150 @= owner:3 tot:3 Pipes
15 color: 194 @= owner:2 tot:3 Air Extractors
16 color: 247 @= owner:3 h:5 Antigravitational Transpo
18 color: 247 @= owner:3 h:5 Space Elevator
19 color: 247 @= owner:3 h:5 Teleportation Control
21 color: 253 @= GIVING owner:1 Superconducting Magnetic

22 color: 253 @= owner:0 Anti Matter Power Plant
24 color: 253 @= GIVING owner:1 Cold Fusion Power Plant

25 color: 194 @= owner:2 tot:3 Carbon Extractors
26 color: 254 @= owner:2 h:5 Timewarp Restaurant
27 color: 150 @= owner:3 tot:3 Garbage Dezintegrators
28 color: 254 @= owner:2 h:5 Intergalactic Hotel
29 color: 254 @= owner:2 h:5 Cyborg Theatre
31 color: 252 @= TAKING owner:0 Zero Gravity Lab
33 color: 252 @= owner:1 Spaceport
34 color: 252 @= owner:1 Interstellar Gate
35 color: 194 @= owner:0 tot:1 Silicon Extractors
36 color: 251 @= owner:1 h:5 Planetary Marketing
37 color: 150 @= no owner Energy Channeling Center
38 color: 251 @= owner:1 h:5 Brainwave Propaganda Stud
39 color: 251 @= owner:1 h:5 Brainwave Propaganda Tran

rawyal gave 800 cash + 2 dark blue to mekd at -175 start
by doing this trade rawyal got himself pink set having 1200 cash in hand & fully build green set ,this trade was a good 1 for rawyal
on the other hand before trade mekdi who had only orange & brown fully upgraded sets ( 1200 cash + 800 credit) got valuable 800 cash + 2 dark blue (making a set for himself ) credit worth of 800 from rawyal for a pink which was of no use for him
althogh upgrading blue set is very difficult at rec with fully upgraded board still by taking this trade his net reserve position increased by good 1600 to give him a good chance to improve his rank
at the end mekdi lost the game as the board was 100% fully upgraded but still with 1 or 2 hits here & there things could have changed the outcome

it was a good trade done by both players to improve their chances so no action taken
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Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:47 am
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MATTIE
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thanks sims . yiles , i never trade unfair - at ec when u wanted the last cyan for 1500 - i rejected the offer and sent u back a trade for 1300 coz i thought it was more fair at that stage.

had i been in mekdinosaur 's position, i wud have upgraded blues to level 3 minimum , i said it in the game , and i am saying it here the same thing. He did not have cash to give me , otherwise i would have gone fore dark blues.

If you are unhappy with the verdict , please feel free to PM bill.
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Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:13 am
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Yiles
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What did I tell you Helen?



LOL



Ok this is the edited version...



If you think that trading to get blues set (when you can't upgrade them) while GIVING purples to someone who already has greens on FULL upgrade is a good trade, you either must be stupid, or you think we are stupid. He had NO chance to improve his rank, with greens out there fully upgraded- what was he gonna do with those blues and that credit?


I have to laugh, as it keeps me from crying... watching this game go up in smoke



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Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:10 am
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Yiles , i see you doing nothing but trying to start another debate , try to cause more trouble in the forums . A verdict has been passed , if you are not happy , you have a simple course of action laid out in front of u - PM Bill

I am officially giving you a first warning here for this.
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