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Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:36 pm
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5 player game date: 15:09:2013 time about 6:30pm uk time i cant remember all the players but i know gentleman, skunk, crabb and 2 more my account was 140000 i get second in the game i get 39000 but only 10000 was added to my account theres a glitch somewhere please have a look into this matter thanks
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Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:13 pm
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I think it was just a 4p
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Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:52 am
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I did a check on the maths using guesses at what our scores had been before the game, and it does sound like 40k is approximately what Skunk should have got.

But I can't remember for sure what all of our starting scores were, so can't tell whether Skunk has received the correct number of points or not.

CYN, if you can tell me what all of our starting scores were going into the match, then I can check this out using the scoring formula here: http://www.galacticmag.com/doc-miscellaneous.php#rating
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Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:25 pm
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my starting score was 140000 after the game finish it said i should of get 39k only 10k added
(MAYBE YOU MISREAD IT AS THE WINNER RECEIVED 39000)
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Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:19 am
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How much you get does not just depend only on how much your points were at the beginning, it depends on what the other players beginning points were, so to make a statement of you had 140000 you get second means you get 39000 is wrong.
Also it was a four player game not 5. The first place person received 39000, the 3rd place player had lower beginning points than you and the fourth place player who had even more than you, which adjusts what you get but also what crabbs got for being 3rd and the lowest ranked player to start. The winner contributes no points and he was the highest pointed player in the beginning. i do not see where you received the wrong amount of points. if you want to show me where you didnt get the points you should have using the formula that crabbs provided i will submit it to Kreso. How you figured what points you should get without knowing the points of the other players is impossible.
Maybe you misread it as the winner received 39000.
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Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:38 am
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I think he simply read that he got 39k when he finished 2nd/ He's not saying that there's a fixed prize of 39k for 2nd.

Are you able to easily tell us what all of the players' starting scores were, CYN? If so we can check with the formula that the prizes were right.

I'm sure they were, the system's never been known to go wrong.
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Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:59 am
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it was the system says i should get 39k the winner get 70k i finish second with skunk at starting was 140000 please check the log it will back up what i am saying
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Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:04 am
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gentleman starting points was 320000 he got 70000 for being first i got 39000 for being second and that is the FACT not assumption please check the log this is FACT
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Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:40 am
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The system states the 1st place received 39k (fact). His starting points were 370176. (fact)
In a four player game 2nd place contributes 11 percent of their points, 3rd place contributes 17 percent, and 4th place contributes 24 percent.
it states total contributed was 76000+ so there is no way for winner to get 70k and 2nd to get 39k. First place received 39k.
When i get home this evening i will get all the beginning points.
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Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:34 pm
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Actually I ran the maths with estimates again after realised I had made a mistake, there's no way that Skunk would have got 40k for 2nd. I estimate 15k.

Post those starting numbers and I'll make a reply showing what everyone should have got - which will almost certainly be what they did get!
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Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:14 pm
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gentlemen 370176
skunk 147318
MrCrabbs_4p 115410
baffoe2 168498
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Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:37 am
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Thanks.

OK here's what everyone would have got as I work it out:

baffoe2
Starting score: 168498
Losses (rounded down): 168498 * 0.24 = 40439
Gains (rounded down): 0
Net gain: 0 - 40439 = -40439
Bonus: 100
Total point change: -40339
New score: 168498 - 40339 = 128159

MrCrabbs_4p
Starting score: 115410
Losses (rounded down): 115410 * 0.17 = 19619
Gains (rounded down): 1/3 * 40439 = 13479
Net gain: 13479 - 19619 = -6140
Bonus: 100
Total point change: -6040
New score: 115410 - 6040 = 109370

skunk
Starting score: 147318
Losses (rounded down): 147318 * 0.11 = 16204
Gains (rounded down): (1/3 * 40439) + (1/2 * 19619) = 13479 + 9809 = 23288
Net gain: 23288 - 16204 = 7084
Bonus: 100
Total point change: +7184
New score: 147318 + 7184 = 154502

gentlemen
Starting score: 370176
Losses (rounded down): 0
Gains (rounded down): (1/3 * 40439) + (1/2 * 19619) + (16204) = 39492
Net gain: 39492 - 0 = 39492
Bonus: 100
Total point change: +39592
New score: 370176 + 39592 = 409768

Double-check:
1) The calculations show baffoe2's new score as 128159, which is exactly what he has at the time of my writing in the ranklist.

And I calculate gentlemen's new score to be 409768, which again is exactly what it is in the ranklist today.

You and I have since used our accounts, so our scores have changed again, but I definitely had 109k+ and you definitely had 154k+ so we can assume everything's correct.

2) CYN said that the system records the total points contributed as being 70k+

40439 + 19619 + 16204 + 0 = 76262

Conclusion: You didn't get robbed, you just imagined it.
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Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:52 am
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Thank you Mr Crabbs for taking the time to do that Very Happy
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Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:05 am
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Oh it's not problem. I'm very sad! Embarassed
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