[princeofpersia1992]

Time around 00.09 indian time
5p game
Players
Tiberius
Test5
Monster
Sloth139
Princeofpersia(me)

First he called me and monster cheater because we were talking in hindi (plz mod check if there was anything so called teaming or cheating done between me and monster in the game)

Then he called ur DOGS that's the biggest reason I m reporting this plz mods do check thx

[wallace]

I see these two playing together and basically they help each other. Its not the first time. One blocks and never offers you a trade on what they block. Then the other opens and gets the cards cheap.

Im sorry for reacting but this was the second teaming game one after the other and I was a bit angry.

But they are teamers and Ive had to put up with it before. The place is rife with teamers and cheats its no wonder people get annoyed sometimes. A 5p game takes over an hour so when in the middle you realise you have no chance because two friends decide to block your moves and not bid on their friends.

The previous game was 5 player and 3 of us left the game becuse 2 players allowed 3 properties to go at base value without bidding. the start value being 230.
I cant remember the names of the players but it was the game just 5 min before this one. People were talking about it on the lobby.

Sloth was in both games and he too left twice. So its not just me thats seeing this going on.
Ive lost interest in reporting on here, and now it seems the cheats are starting to counter report .. laughable

[trace567]

Ok well I'm going to start this one with an apology. I have been unsuccessful in checking this game as fully as I would of liked.

On the trades side there was one trade that looked odd. Which was at start 145 monster taking a white from princeofpersia. It was for 1300. What was a little odd about it was that monster owned 1 other white only, the other 2 being owned by test.
Now whilst a little odd, he may of just been trying to collect up 3 white over time to add to his 3 black. Or be thinking of a trade later involving black/white. BUT he was leaving himself cashless when 4th black was still on the board unowned.
Which is what strikes me as odd here.
Test owned the other 2 white, but didn't have much funds for a trade involving both.

This therefore leaves this trade extremely shakey.

With regard to the chat, I think that bearing in mind both players do know english that it was unfair and wrong for them to be chatting in non-english during the game. This caused tensions to run high.

Test's outburst came after the trade, within a few minutes.

Sloth left the game within 7 minutes of the start, start cash was still over 300. Long before the trade.

I am going to request Cyndi look at the trade to get her opinion on it, I personally feel it is borderline cheat.

Test I must warn you about your chat, I understand you had a bad game prior to this one and this didn't help. But you really MUST not call others names or become offensive. If it happens again there will be a ban issued.


Test I checked the game prior to this, the one involving zilla and blocker. There was I'm afraid nothing at all I could find to use from the data collected by the system.

[princeofpersia1992]

I want to clarify a few points here
1)The 1300 trade for white -Ok I agree monster was making 2 whites nt 3 and I could hv also sold it to test but I was nt getting any kind of offers from him and so when monster offered 1300 I accepted because it was useless for me that time and I wanted cash fr dblue and red
2)The chatting matter -ok we were chating in hindi
I agree but I don't think there is any rules for using only english language in a game and also in most of our chats we just joking or smthing like that to each other most of the times.monster is my frieind I agree and we chat a lot like this in most games we play together but we never help each other as a matter of fact he and I take each other as competitors

And if still there be problem for chatting or joking with my freinds in hindi I will try to reduce it

[trace567]

There is no rule regarding speaking in only english in game.
But when 2 players are speaking in a different language its certainly can make the remaining players feel uneasy. I know this myself from my own games.

So it is really a request just to be considerate of others since you both do speak english, you could I assume hold the same conversation openly thus involving other players within the game so they do not feel at threat.

As for the trade, I'm going to wait for Cyndi to view it and give me her take before placing any ruling.

[wallace]

Hi

My outburst came just after the white trade. but also after one of them opened up a red and was about to get it at base value. I had the lowest cash and had to bid on it as much as i could. It still went cheap.

Now the 4th player didnt bid either, but that was his stratigy from the start, ie he wasnt bidding on anything and saving all cash. But I ask my self what benifit it would be to Prince to allow the red to go for min value.

Further to this one of them blocked my Yellow set at high cost to them and wouldnt accept my trades on that card yet accepted a stupid 2nd white from his friend ??

This and the constant laughing and joking in Hindi and refusal of my trades made it look to me like pals helping pals.

Please just look at how many games they have had together and the outcome of those games.

Again I appologise for not keeping cool. However I dont have a problem with loosing if the game is played fairly. But over time you get to know when things are not right in a game, and this was altogether strange.

Regards

[trace567]

The white trade has been cleared.

No penalty issued.

[BrownSandwich]

I have played in games with these two before, and have seen a pattern with one blocking and the other buying up cheap and trading. The only reasonable trades they offer are too each other. I agree with wallace on this issue. The fact that the two can communicate without the rest of players being able to understand is an advantage. The way i see it, it is pretty much the same as being able to whisper to another player in game(which is not allowed for good reason).
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[princeofpersia1992]

Hey trace plzz can u check if possible all the games played between me and monster or resident evil and tell me if u really think there were teaming or anthing
Because if I m accused of teaming without doing it better I will next time show brownsandwich and wallace what exactly teaming means

[trace567]