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Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:25 pm
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Nilo911
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Monday, 20 September
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Mercedes190e
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David
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I receaved several cheat offers and witnessed questionable trades. I didnt have time to note down the prices.
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:48 pm
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based on the players invovled, i know 2 offer very silly trades, one has been punished one has not yet

its a matter of time i guess

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Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:38 pm
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There were 32 trade offers/accepted trades within that game.

So forgive me if I have missed anything....if there's something I have missed that you can recall nilo please shout and I'll go back through and try find it.

The following trades jumped out at me:

Accepted trade between campione and fix

last cyan for 1 white

now reason this one jumps out at me is because campione didn't own any of the other whites, and fix was deep in debt at this point.

Now this isn't a straight cheat, as white does hold value etc. It is just a tad odd.

Following this trade camp tries to trade this white to nilo for his last black, only again nilo doesn't own the other whites.

There was a trade offer made (in fact more than once) by david to fix to buy d blue for 1000 (that is all the dark blues) that being below base and below credit value is a cheat trade offer, although fix was deep in debt...this trade offer is still not ok as it doesn't even mean credit/base value.

Last trade of the game was accepted

David to fix
3 brown for 1770 at start 15

At time of trade fix has brown built to level 4 and owns 3 d blue with no upgrades, and is 660 in debt.

So late in the game brown are not worth a lot, whilst this again isn't a full cheat trade as the brown helps give david extra income, and does help fix out of debt, it had pretty much no chance of actually improving fix's end rank.

Prior to this trade david was sending fix offers for browns for 1500

Also I can tell that cyan of which were owned by fix were at some stage auctioned and bought by david.

Action to be taken:

Fix5 and david0928 both to be reduced 50%

Reason being david sent a 100% cheat offer. The brown offer of 1500 for brown is borderline.

Fix having received davids 1500 offer, then decides to get real greedy and try for 1770! Of which david then agree's to.

Both players really must look at their trading behaviour for future games,

Campion also please be aware that your trading must also be improved if you do not wish to land yourself in trouble also.
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:50 am
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any problem around me frend?
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:40 pm
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judd wrote:
based on the players invovled, i know 2 offer very silly trades, one has been punished one has not yet

its a matter of time i guess

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Judd please do not post on complaint threads giving your opinion like this.

Please leave it to moderators who have access to the logs to address any issues with users, thank you.
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:19 pm
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trace567 wrote:
judd wrote:
based on the players invovled, i know 2 offer very silly trades, one has been punished one has not yet

its a matter of time i guess

Cool


Judd please do not post on complaint threads giving your opinion like this.

Please leave it to moderators who have access to the logs to address any issues with users, thank you.


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Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:56 pm
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This Judd is the complaint section, and is not a free for all.

However the rest of the forum you may use if you wish for discussion, debate. Perhaps you may like to contribute to the forum by creating threads of which will interest you.
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:50 pm
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I don't understand all in this post but my game is always clear!
I dislike cheaters!

I don't remember all but for example
trace567 wrote:
3 brown for 1770 at start 15
At time of trade fix has brown built to level 4 and owns 3 d blue with no upgrades, and is 660 in debt.

in this case I have better chance to win filling my other zone. selling brown I get fresh cash to begin build.
Next I don't get fortune but isn't cheat!

I think that isn't a good thing that in 70% of games
someone try to stop others trades telling about dirty cheats and threaten to report.
This port some pls to not trade at all.
I love trades.
I dislike lose time in false pretences.

And.. isn't normal accuse all pls as cheaters?

my conscience is quietly. bye bye
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:27 pm
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fixus if you are finding players frequently are commenting on trades within your games, if those trades are involving yourself, may I suggest you look at why this might be.

If you would like this complaint looked at again, please contact CYN via pm and she will look into it for you.
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Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:46 am
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I spoke in general..
Lately we cant play in pace because people want fight about report cheaters.
Not only over me.
I'm in agreement to report Bad-vulgar pl
and pls that play together
but we can't stop trades market..
make an offer isn't illegal.
For me only very strange trades are to be reported.
I cant stop game to calculate exact price.
other part can always adjust offer.
This hard rules has to be used only in tournaments!!
This state of cheat report is excessive and spoil the game
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Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:48 am
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Judd . Are you in move to stir trouble again ? . You dont play any more . You come here time to time to see if there is some material for make trouble and do some sarcastic comment . What are you doing on GM . Let people play and enjoy the game .
And about this report . We dont want any of your coment here if it has nothing to do with it . Especially we dont have any need that you teach us about forum rules . This is last time I only warn you . Next time noone will save you from aproppriate punishment .
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