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sim5 wrote: | i am ready to give my sim5 a/c to judd if mods agre |
please trace & bez read it again before coming to any conclusion
CYN wrote: | The candidates that would be ok'd for modship (not listed here) |
so what u saying all these who r listed in poll are not ok to be a mod ?
CYN wrote: | Unknown i think you care about GM however the comment of a second chance for an exmod shows you do not know the rules here |
i fully agree with u cyn if there is a rule by kreso we all have to respect it
well i am trying to find out this rule by kreso but not getting it , may be i missed it
therefore i will aprreciate cyn if u can give us the link where this rule was mentioned by kreso himself so that all can see
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CYN wrote: | No exmod is to give their account to anyone. If a mod is to be appointed it can ONLY be done by Kreso. Unknown, Kreso does have other contacts other than his pm address here.
Sim you know that Judd was removed and can never be a mod again. Unknown i think you care about GM however the comment of a second chance for an exmod shows you do not know the rules here nor the wishes of the owner. Exmods who were removed can never be reinstated.
Anyone giving their account to anyone else does risk permanent removal.
The candidates that would be ok'd for modship (not listed here) unfortunately have said they do not have time or that they do not want to be mod as they have seen the way mods are treated here and i am sure do not feel like dealing with the 5 people that repeatedly instigate problems here. |
I agree with you 100 percent CYN actually I couldn't have explained the rules for mod requirements better to the potential mod candidates
unfortunately there is a potential rule violation with one of the potential mods here regarding judd >how your name ever got into this list is astonishing with your past actions and your mod ship removal<
I know sim is pushing for you to be re:instated BUT rules are rules YOU can't re:apply for this position again even if you were voted in by other people. you had your chance and unfortunately you blew it. so this is why you should not be reinstated because you violated a modship requirement a trusted position from the people who voted you in the last time mod positions were available
on a personal note judd and I have been GM pals for years so my view is only based on the modship side of things. I got to be biased in this situation rules are rules and we have to abide by them unfortunately
there is one person here whom I think might be ideal for a modship postion and that person is theunknownamus from what I've seen in this person past posts in this forum could be a suitable candidate not sure on game play as I haven't played this person as much as the others in the lobby just wondering whats your other accs I may have played you just trying to get a picture of you through your game play I may or may not have played with you yet
as for being a mod I feel sorry for you people on the list excluding judds name. with all the shit you will go through you automatically become a target with your every forum post and game play scrutinized seriously do you potential mods know what your getting yourself into. if so good luck
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i agree with u jarod theunknownamus is a good candidate for mod
i see no reason why he should not be given a chance
about judd to be a mod i again fully agree with cyn if there is a rule by kreso which says x-mod who was removed for misusing his power cant be given a 2nd chance as mod then his name should not be discuss at all
everyone has to respect kreso rule
therefore if that rule is put in front of everyone it will be nice
just to add i think no1 here is greedy for modship all r trying to solve the current problem because giving control to just 1 person is not good for gm _________________
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as far as I see things sim... cyn is doing a pretty good job in the forum and lobby although she has to look at getting the right people to help run GM. people with the right aptitude this is why I think new blood will be ideal in this situation finding people to be fair in decision making is definitely a very hard task finding people with the experience to handle the amount of negative feedback towards them is even harder with the amount of abuse they may encounter which will eventually happen to them as time goes by will definitely question why they ever volunteered in my opinion some people in this forum can be very vindictive and down right ungrateful so I can't see any reason why cyn shouldn't be too hasty in appointing new mods for the sake of building mod numbers up finding the right people to help run GM takes full priority than just appointing any tom dick and harry |
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Sim you will have to take that up with Bill as he is the one that told me all the rules per Kreso. Why you are trying to stir things up i do not know. You were a mod and you know how it is to have someone constantly pushing and questioning. You say you arent against anyone yet you continue to push.
Yes we need more mods and things are in the works to get this done. As when Bill was here it is not posted in the forum until it is all decided then i will welcome the new mod(s) publicly. Just as it has always been done.
Thank you very much for your words and explanations Jarod, they are appreciated. Sim if you are pushing for new mods to get the unrated games open you may as well move on from that. The point system was not meant for those games. People work hard to get to the top ten and with you having your names in their a few times and reviewing your stats of how you got there, proves that the unrated games let others get up to the top ten that havent worked as hard as the others there that played the game the way it was created. _________________ CYN
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I totaly agree with Jarod and Cyn . My post is talking about all that but , becouse of my bad english , its a litle hard to understand what I wanted to say. In the other hand , everyone who knows me , understand what i wrote . Sim , if you will persist to ask for writen roule about Judd or Fort or any ex mod , who abused their power and get lift from modships , you wont get it .
I think that you ask for something that we all knows , writen or not writen anywhere >>> any moderator who abused his power wont be moderator on GM never again <<<< , and you , or any reasonable people , should know that . One more thing . Cyn is momentaly the onlyone moderator on GM , and that make her head moderator here ( Bill didnt show up for a long time and , like I see , he is not willing to help here ) . So , Cyn is our only conection with Kreso , ( Iam helping with that becouse I know him very well ) and what Cyn decide to do or , when she decide to put new mods if someone will be interested , she will do that . Our only job is to see who is willing to be mod here and thats it . Personaly I vote for Trace if she is willing to take back her modship . I think that Cyn , Trace and one more moderator we chose will be good choice for GM comunity . So , Iam personaly asking Trace to come back and retake her modship .Trace , dont work so hard as you used to do in past . Every mod need some period of rest from mod job . Every third week you two take a rest from mod duty . One week you , one week Cyn . Its good for you both . And I thank you both for exelent job you are doing here . Thank you very much. |
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i'm just going to say a few things here
1. Do i want to be a mod again? - as everyone who has been a mod, both past and present, they will all agree it is a thankless task. no matter what you do you are in line for scruitiny for your every move.
2. you are all wrong in terms of exmods becoming mods again. helen was a mod, got banned and got reinstated. FACT. this was all done by kreso so i am not too sure where everyone is getting this "once a mod" never a mod again view from. remember, i am talking FACT here not opinion.
3. let me go back to the event from "back in the day" when i lost it and was removed from mod. it was a big 4p. and crabbs sold 3/4 whites for about 900 just so he could pass go, he was about to go out, his next roll was certain to be last position. electico had won already from what i can remember and buying the whites at that time wouldnt have enhanced his position, he had already won. this is what kreso calls cooperative play. i swore like a trooper in the lobby. i was justifiably removed for that and for deleting crabbs posts on the forum, even though he was a proper trouble maker.
4. now i would just like to make something very clear. trace is not a mod and she continues to use her account for changes to points, banning people etc. this is an abuse of mod power and in my opinion should result in a months ban. end of story - this is out and out abuse of mod power by someone who is not even a mod.
I also qusetion her conduct and language in the lobby, this was on par with what i said in the lobby after the crabbs incident, so on top of abusing mod power she has used some of the worst language ever seen here. this shoiuld result in a bigger compounded ban over and above the suggested month for abuse of mod account, all of a sudden, trace, you look like you should be out for a serious length of time.
I have all the evidence and i would not like to lower the tone of the forum posting your filthy lobby language on here, however i will if deemed necessary and cyn wishes to see the evidence in order to form an independent and impartial and opinion prior to your removal. remember i am talking FACT here not fiction. this incident needs to be reviewed and punished.
4. i agree with everyone on here who says cyn is doing a great job, she really is.
There is a lot less volume to have to deal with because numbers for the game have dropped off, in part to not having advertising etc, the promotion of the game is at a massive all time low. i think cyn needs a little bit of help, however i just couldnt recomend the unknownamus as his game skill and experience is too low sorry. however, josh is one of the best contributors to the forum i have seen in my time here.
5. REMEMBER GUYS, ITS JUST A GAME.
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judd wrote: | okie
3. let me go back to the event from "back in the day" when i lost it and was removed from mod. it was a big 4p. and crabbs sold 3/4 whites for about 900 just so he could pass go, he was about to go out, his next roll was certain to be last position. electico had won already from what i can remember and buying the whites at that time wouldnt have enhanced his position, he had already won. this is what kreso calls cooperative play. i swore like a trooper in the lobby. i was justifiably removed for that and for deleting crabbs posts on the forum, even though he was a proper trouble maker.
4. now i would just like to make something very clear. trace is not a mod and she continues to use her account for changes to points, banning people etc. this is an abuse of mod power and in my opinion should result in a months ban. end of story - this is out and out abuse of mod power by someone who is not even a mod.
I also qusetion her conduct and language in the lobby, this was on par with what i said in the lobby after the crabbs incident, so on top of abusing mod power she has used some of the worst language ever seen here. this shoiuld result in a bigger compounded ban over and above the suggested month for abuse of mod account, all of a sudden, trace, you look like you should be out for a serious length of time.
I have all the evidence and i would not like to lower the tone of the forum posting your filthy lobby language on here, however i will if deemed necessary and cyn wishes to see the evidence in order to form an independent and impartial and opinion prior to your removal. remember i am talking FACT here not fiction. this incident needs to be reviewed and punished.
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Get your facts straight. You banned crabbs, went on a tiraid of abuse in the lobby for more than a couple of minutes, you kicked him from the lobby several times. Used ALOT of foul words. You banned crabbs, dispite the fact you were in the game and were not allowed (by the rules) to rule upon your own game. The trade was infact by rules NOT a cheat trade, it benefited and advanced both players!
After you got removed from modship, you attempted to try and have me get you crabbs ip address (you wanted to track him down and smash his lights out coz to you he cheated you), you tried to get me to do this by telling me you'd pay me. This all took place on messenger. I of course wouldn't do that, never in a million years. Instead I informed Bill.
As for what you believe you have on me, I will tell ALL just like I told Cyndi after the fact. I told her when, and where to look in the logs and told her to ban me if she wanted to.
Before I quit modship Prab (sim) had been going on and on and on and on at me, day in day out about everything he wanted here on GM. But he had quit, wouldn't leave it for me to sort out in due course, I was busy enough just trying to stay on top of the work here. No, he nagged me all the time. Driving me damn crazy.
The occasion was in the lobby, he was going on and on about the casino games again. Rallying members to go on and on about it. He said the words (or similar) to me "what you want to say now"......I replied with "I want to say F word you", I then scrolled this about 10 times.
I told him to get me banned, Bez witnessed this also, I told him kick me from the lobby in pm). I also told them to report if they wanted to, I was fully expecting to recieve a ban. But I'd had it, really had it after all the months and months of working my butt off here.
As for you saying I banned and changed points. I replaced a short ban on joker after Sim unbanned him wrongfully. Cyndi was unavalible, I had to make a choice, use my power (without wanting to) before the situation became out of control (with others requesting they too be released off bans). Or leave it till cyndi arrived, I knew as I know cyndi well that she wouldn't chose him to be unbanned. I chose to re-ban him, so she could made the decision she wanted without the pressure of him having been playing for a couple of days.
Point change, I changed points once! once weeks ago. I posted so on the forum, it was for a unrated game 2p I believe I actually lost the game (I will go and check, it is all there on the unrated section). Mods were already snowed under due to my leaving, I thought it would help!!!!!!!
You are a extremely vindictive person Ju. If you so much as believe you have evidence of anything, it means you got it from a source who would of abused his power to allow you to get it. That is the same person who abused his power to undo jokers ban without permission or discussion to any current mod at that time. The same person who yesterday requested I take action on cyndi for a private discussion!
So whatever it is you want done to me, go for it. Coz I'm sick of people like you who will only twist and turn things for their own gain.
In all the years I've been here, I lost it ONCE! Maybe you'll recall Bill losing it once also, after years. He spammed the forum with f words. When he'd just about had enough of it. Can't say I blame him either.
I also did what I did because I wanted to be banned. I was sick of this place, I was sick of the people who made being a mod a misery for me. When I gave my time, my time, for nothing. Wouldn't you get a little bit angry? If one person nonstop nagged at you, even though they had given up their postion, left you short staffed, then pushed and pushed to the point I quit before I truly snapped. |
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Only one thing here I dont understand . How the heck one pearson like Judd can justify or criticize moves of other pearson or mods on GM . After all what he did before , when he was , and after he was lift from modship . One 31-32 old child can do this ? Iam amazed . I think , I was the only one against to put you in moderator job here and i was wright .Even Trace was for you . Now , constantly , in cooperation with Sim , you attack one of the best moderator ever on GM . For what reason . I will tell you for what reason . Becouse she dont dance like you wont from her . Cyn will be the next victim from you two both ( I hope not ). And do you know what will happend next when we lose all moderators ....... The GM will be close forever . I will now quote in english words what Kreso said to me in his last e-mail . Listen carefully Judd and Sim and all others who love this game . This are his words he wrote to me in Croatian . ( Kreso is from Croatia - my country )
>>>>> AS LONG AS THERE WILL BE PEOPLE INTERESTED TO WORK LIKE ADMINISTRATORS AND LOOK UP FOR THE GAME I WILL ( Kreso ) PAY AND KEEP GM MONOPOLY ON LINE <<<<<<
And beleve me ... we are so close to lose all mods and this beatifull game.
In future ( If there will be future on GM ) we will vote for punish all members and players who attack moderators and their job on GM . Also we will vote for mods replacement if they dont work properly or if they abuse their mod power , like you ( judd ) did and now you are ( in cooperation with ex mod Sim ) , the best critic of moderators on GM . |
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After you got removed from modship, you attempted to try and have me get you crabbs ip address (you wanted to track him down and smash his lights out coz to you he cheated you), you tried to get me to do this by telling me you'd pay me.
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Roflmao, I think we got a peeping-tom on the loose, ROFL
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I will try to keep this short: 1st I realize this is Kreso's game & will always be his game whether or not he's here. His rules should be abided by as if they were commandments. As painful as it is without him here, we all can still perservere. 2nd- It was nothing personal Bez. I just wanted sure proof the words were Kerso's not your own. Thank you for sharing a glimpse of hope with us. 3rd Cindi, I want nothing more than for GM to best it can be. Thats why I was so desperate to get a new mod ASAP. But I realize rules must be followed so Judd cant become a Mod again. 4th- After just seeing just a glimpse of Judd/Crabbs/Trace conflict, I can tell it was more horrible & time consuming than I imagined. As much respect I have for Judd, this can't be undone nor should it be brought up again. Conflicts like these cause people to choose sides when we all should be together. Divided we fall; United we stand 5th- As far as my experience goes, Ive been on for nearly 2 years now & know how the game works. I may not be the best player but I know how to rule a decision. I have learned what cheat trades, gray trades, benefical trades, & illegal teamwork is. And I would give every point I have to put an end to it. 6th- Jarod, my accounts include: theunknownamus, Joe_Satriani, unknownamus, jackminnow, _ozzy_, and Kichigai. 7th- For this being a thankless job, the only thanks I need is knowing that im helping GM. If I become a Mod, I VOW that I will never quit until as many people as possible are satisfied and justice has been served. From the day I was born Ive been conditioned to endure unspeakable pain & still manage to come out on top. I have faced rejection, abandonment, addiction, physical, sexual, & verbal abuse, and just recently 2 months ago, an attack on my life by a former best friend. I been through every hell life could throw at me, short of contracting a disease or living in a 3rd world country, & still managed to rise above it. This is why I REFUSE to let anyone suffer as I have, no matter how small or large the pain! I would throw down my needs for the sake of the weak whether or not they are greatful. I apologize if I digressed, but I will leave you these words: "Anyone who can accept abuse with a simle is a leader" |
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bezma2 wrote: | Also we will vote for mods replacement if they dont work properly or if they abuse their mod power , like you ( judd ) did and now you are ( in cooperation with ex mod Sim ) , the best critic of moderators on GM . |
why u feel so happy in pointing fingers on others bez ![Question](images/smiles/icon_question.gif) _________________
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Becouse noone else wont so , I do . Dont think that iam happy doing this . i only wont that you two stop asking something that can be done here . Stop with atacks on mods and thats all . You and some others alredy make Trace and some other mods resign becouse of your selfishnes and greedy . And thats a fact . You abused your ex -mod power and lift a ban to Joker without asking anyone in charge . And now you have a courage to atack people and moderators work .
You atack the same people-players-mods who didnt punish you for what you did . That part I dont understand from you nor them . I want reply to you any more . Its better for you that you leave people - mods to do their job in the best way they can ( for free) . Try to make some constructive posts insted . |
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HI to All Forum users and previous postees.
FIrstly I would like to say thanks for the votes, and think its a great idea for more mods to be active on both the game and the forum .
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As this subject has been drawn up so many times over the past few months, I think we should ALL know by now... given the current situation with regards to both Kreso And Bill being unavailable to actually change things around here, we should just leave the the subject close it and draw a line under it.
I would also like to say tha CYN is doing a great job here at the mo running things single handidly and im sure IF the situation could be resolved she would have got it sorted by now .... Yes the forum is open for debates But currently this debate is pointless. UNtil CYN AND ONLY CYN under the current situation GM is in , posts otherwise, for example that she has heard from Bill or Kreso and posts to state this , NO NEW MODS WILL be ABLE TO BE ADDED when we see a post from CYN or Bill askin for anyone intersted in being a mod to come forward. So please all users RESPECT the MOD we have before we end up losing here aswell !
Have you ever thought what it would be like if we had no mods at all here ???? hmmmm lets just say we would all be sorry then .
CYN keep up the good work
and to everyone else please please leave this subject and just hope tha cCYN get the assistance both we and she needs soon .
Happy Gaming all
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bez if you want to shout everytime against who breaks the rules then go ahead , i have no problem
i will also see how good you are for giving ur fair view taking consideration all are equal and no1 is above any1
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The occasion was in the lobby, he was going on and on about the casino games again. Rallying members to go on and on about it. He said the words (or similar) to me "what you want to say now"......I replied with "I want to say F word you", I then scrolled this about 10 times.
I told him to get me banned, Bez witnessed this also, I told him kick me from the lobby in pm). I also told them to report if they wanted to, I was fully expecting to recieve a ban. But I'd had it, really had it after all the months and months of working my butt off here.
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totally incorrect statement trace please dont lie because i was just talking with someone about casino games in lobby which we have the right to talk about
but u abused me in open lobby by saying
FU#K YOU..FU#CK YOU...FU#CK YOU again again agan many times in front of others including ur friend (lobby mod) bez who was not only watching but encouraging you (BEZ who is the lobby mod & whose job is to make sure no1 use the bad language against others in lobby)
& after that u said " u dont care"
you also showed in lobby ur power by arrogance by saying "what you gono do about it" knowing cyndi is with you to save you from all this
u may have privately told cyndi about this later but it doesnt mean what u did justify ur act & u r allowed to use such abusive language in open lobby
ur the admin here so u should not have behave like that which is nothing but a bannable offence & for this u should be removed from admin immediately for wrong doing according to rules
you also used slanderous language in forum against me in front of everyone by saying to me I AM A DOG WITH A BONE which again is a bannable offence specially from a admin whose job is to see people dont abuse or use bad language in forum
again cyndi knows this but showed her negligence by not even giving u a warning why ?
you clearly abused ur admin power for abusing & for that u should not be a admin anymore & should face a punishment
i agree with judd what he said
you also used ur mod power for changing your own points which u won in 2p challege without waiting for mods even for a day
again u may have given reason to cyndi u did just to save her time but it doesnt mean what u did is right otherwise all x mods can do like this
did cyndi told u not to do again...NO
again a bannable offence according to rules for using ur mod power when u was not a mod
u also banned joker knowing u was not a mod which again according to rules is bannable offence but cyndi here also didnt do anything not even a warning while she gave me the warning
i my self unbanned joker which is against the rules & for that i already said earlier why i did & gave the explaination
but still i am ready to face a ban if u will also get a ban for the same reason because ban or unban we dont have the right to do according to rules
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this is what he thinks his job is
but what he did is opposite abusing his power in a big way by pushing you to go on rather than stopping you or giving you a warning
bez was having a fun that day when you was abusing me in the lobby in front of him because he knew nothing can be done against him as you urself was involved
bez knew u was wrong here but he showed not only his negligence but was having a good time
for abusing his power bez should aslo be removed & banned according to RULES
well its very clear you broke the rules again & again & ur friend bez who talk too much against others about rules must be banned also for what he did
>about mod cyndi
most shocking thing is cyndi knows all this... but she just ignore all the misconduct done by trace just to protect her from facing a ban
cyndi did this for her personal reason because trace is her close friend & she wanted to protect her from being get punished
for this negligence & misusing of her power cyndi should also be removed & banned according to RULES
she didnt even once warn trace for such activity although she missed no chance to warn me for joker incident & for my post where i only said people should look at banning policy
which i think people have every right to post their view in forum if they have any concern thats why forum is made
cyndi was involved with trace in consipracy against me & thats why i was not surprised why they both were not interested in a fresh mod
so bez before telling people who absued power please look at urself & ur friends what all u have done
few people here think i am stupid who is against you & your friend in forum but they dont know the real facts
what all i have done is to make sure u guys dont control the gm the way u want, this place should be run for the best interest of all gm population not for you & ur friends only
i tried my best to get new faces as mod so that he/she can bring justice to all because i know you all are close friends & will not do anything against each other which clearly shows
if i will ask to prove i will show each & everything so no worries......
sad day for gm but this is because we dont use comensense but try to pull others down
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