Galactic Magnate logo  
   
 
Forums Home Register FAQ Website  
 
 

Forums home Suggestions Jail - with or without profit?
Display posts from previous:   
      All times are GMT  
Post new topic  Reply to topic Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next

 
Should players get profit from monopolies, extractors and utilities when in jail?
Yes
44%
 44%  [ 12 ]
No (as it is now)
55%
 55%  [ 15 ]
Total Votes : 27
      Back To Top  

Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:22 pm
Author Message
Kreso
Game Developer


Joined: 17 Jul 2005
Posts: 755

Post subject: Jail - with or without profit? Reply with quote

This poll is about the new rule which is already active in the game: when a player is in jail, he does not receive profits from monopolies, extractors and utilities.

Old rule was that players, when in jail, do receive all profits as normal.

So do you like the old rule better or not?


Last edited by Kreso on Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:32 pm; edited 1 time in total
      Back To Top  

Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:28 pm
Author Message
Fort
Planet


Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 1603

Post subject: Reply with quote

I do agree that player should not receive rent when in jail. Very much so.

But for 3 turns, its too much a long period, particularly in 5P game where salary reduces by 25 on an average by the time u come out. I will sure prefer it to be 2 turns.

What my example was illustrating was a situation when player goes into jail from 1st fortune or when he rolls 3rd double while on yellow or orange. In essence if a player goes to jail while he is in 1st quarter of board it hardly matters. This is coz by going to jail u r "auto traveling" 3/4th board. u will anyway travel something like 3/4th board in 3 turns. Does not make any difference. So may be 2/1 turn skip instead of jail makes more sense. If u introduce it then may be u can make jail 1 turn.

In anycase 3 turns in jail are a bit too much.
      Back To Top  

Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:41 am
Author Message
boogaboo
Moon


Joined: 11 Sep 2006
Posts: 301
Location: Israel

Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted yes, but it would be quite ok even if not.. as long as it is 2 turns only.
_________________
Whichever I choose it amounts to the same - absolutely nothing
      Back To Top  

Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:26 am
Author Message
aussie
Ex Moderator


Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Posts: 1457
Location: Australia

Post subject: Reply with quote

I think whilst in prison the player should not receive any income at all.......including bonuses..... I feel prison is still a saving grace.......take away all benefits whilst in prison........make prison the punishment it should be ..............thats my opinion


aussie
      Back To Top  

Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:58 am
Author Message
zaxtheman
Planetoid


Joined: 10 May 2006
Posts: 25
Location: Slovenia

Post subject: Reply with quote

how about recieving only 50 %
_________________
Free BEER for all
      Back To Top  

Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:22 pm
Author Message
jonjonny
Moon


Joined: 27 Dec 2006
Posts: 291
Location: england

Post subject: Reply with quote

lol thats what i was thinking
      Back To Top  

Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:17 pm
Author Message
Fort
Planet


Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 1603

Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i think no profit while in jail is good. Reason is when salary is positive, for more than half of time there is no upgrades done yet (So no question of rents). When its EC u cant expect to earn rent while staying in air conditioned prison.

Just that it needs to be 2 turns which we will have by next week.
      Back To Top  

Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:14 pm
Author Message
raghav11
Moon


Joined: 19 Sep 2006
Posts: 146
Location: india

Post subject: Reply with quote

lol...jons points have taken a dip since the new rule..

well even i feel it should be made half of the monopolies or extractors,utilities u own

or 2 turns in jail either way
_________________
always rock and live life to the fullest
      Back To Top  

Sun May 20, 2007 4:44 am
Author Message
NiceGuy
Planetoid


Joined: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 67

Post subject: I disagree Reply with quote

Jail was bad enough as it is when someone landed on it... now the person is even more unlucky when they land on it...

In my opinion, this change makes it even more a luck based game than it was before... When the person is in jail, he/she already doesn't get to pass go...

You could change it so that ...

if (m_bRecession)
{
GameManager* pGameManager = GetGameManager();
pGameManager->SetNoProfitInJail(true);
}

that might be ok.. but right now it is an incredible luck fest.
      Back To Top  

Thu May 24, 2007 8:32 am
Author Message
Magflag
Ex Moderator


Joined: 07 Jul 2006
Posts: 25

Post subject: Yes I am back Reply with quote

Ok, I just tried out the new version for the first time, and I was suprised...

I would have to say that by eliminating profit while in jail, you are also eliminating a lot of 'luck' elements to the game... Which I do believe that was and is one of the objectives of Galactic Magnate v.s. Monopoly...

Before, when the paycheck was negative, and you were paying 300+ to pass go, you prayed to land on jail, and my friends when you are praying, you are praying for a fortunate result; luck...

On the other hand, if your playing a 5p game, like some have said before me, you litarly get screwed up the rear-end when you land in jail, even if the paycheck is negative, therefore, your opponents are getting lucky each time you land in jail, which evens out the playing field...

For those of you who argued for the non-profit jail time and justified it through it leveled itself out during the negative paycheck era, either way... its leveling it out through the luck aspect from both ends of the spectrum...

I'm not for sure, but I am going to vote for a half profit or a reduced jailtime... Or better yet I am advocating a half profit throughout the entire game, with a reduced jailtime during the negative era... make sense?
_________________
I am currently 8500+ I need a big match though.
      Back To Top  

Fri May 25, 2007 12:25 am
Author Message
NiceGuy
Planetoid


Joined: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 67

Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree Magflag... A lot of the luck elements are eliminated perhaps after recession, but before recession, those who land in jail are already at a disadvantage with not getting to pass go, but now they also receive no income either. I really don't see how it is not an even bigger pitfall now to land in jail before recession (while the income is quite high).
      Back To Top  

Fri May 25, 2007 6:32 am
Author Message
Bill2k06
Ex Moderator


Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Posts: 2675
Location: Manchester UK

Post subject: Reply with quote

jail the way it is i find is luck reducing for the person who goes to jail but not for those who stay out.
in the last week alone, in 4 different games i counted myself going in jail 11 times in one game, 8 another, 12 in 3rd game and only 2 times in the 4th. apart from the 4th game i lost mainly because of my appearances in jail early on in the game, but yet my opponents havent gone to jail that much.

i know luck changes constantly but it seems like the game has got a vendetta against me lately , i just cant seem to get lucky even noobs are coming close to beating me
_________________
      Back To Top  

Fri May 25, 2007 10:05 pm
Author Message
carrieann06
Star


Joined: 12 Mar 2007
Posts: 2072
Location: Manchester

Post subject: Reply with quote

personally i like the way the game is it gives everyone a chance!
_________________
love is completely being with someone, even when they arent with you, no matter what happens, ill always be here x x
      Back To Top  

Sat May 26, 2007 3:11 pm
Author Message
MadMACS
Moon


Joined: 26 May 2007
Posts: 189
Location: USA

Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that the length of time in jail depends on the time of the game, and the number of players.

In a 2p or even 3p game, not "so" much happens in 3 turns, that it might be worth it to sit there to avoid paying start money in EC. But in 4p or 5p game, 3 turns is an eternity and you'll usually lose much more money than you saved by not passing start.

I understand that going to prison is a "penalty", not a bonus, but I think that someone who lands in prison multiple times is severely disadvantaged in the late stages of the game.

Perhaps, before EC, 3 turns, but after EC, 2 turns. And before EC, no rent, but after EC 50% rent.
Otherwise, someone unlucky enough to go to jail time after time (especially if someone else has green fully upgraded) is bound to lose in EC, and there isn't much they can do about it.

I think Jail is still a major "luck" factor, and lessening the penalty (either fewer turns or 1/2 rent) will make it less lucky for everyone else.
It's not that you're lucky you went there, it's that everyone else is lucky you're there. They get a free pass on your properties for three turns.

My $0.02,
MadMACS
      Back To Top  

Sun May 27, 2007 3:54 am
Author Message
NiceGuy
Planetoid


Joined: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 67

Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what the majority of the "no rent in jail" people are saying is that this feature is extremely useful *after* recession...

I think that would be the best of both worlds... No rent in jail after recession... since the person that landed in jail is now lucky for landing in it.
      Back To Top  
Post new topic  Reply to topic Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


      Back To Top  

Page 1 of 3
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group
Avalanche style by What Is Real © 2004