[CYN]

lorraine banned for 15 days for repeated outrageous trade offers in game with trace and i, we both warned several times, was very irritating and told her would increase ban if she didnt stop and she didnt. Went from 5 to 15
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[kingpin]

THought you couldnt do that in a game you played?

[CYN]

we cannot make a ruling in a game that we were in but this was for behavior and annoyance and she was warned by both trace and myself and trace and i both agreed.
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[judd]

[kingpin]

Hmm curious to know how you can be banned for offering undervalued properties, Its not a cheat until its accepted is it?.

Also I hope you wasnt saying in game that you will bann her, because that would add fuel to the fire wouldnt it?

Wouldnt it have been better to ignore the offers and conversation and report, seems like u were both using your powers ingame.

Which to me is unfair and not part of the rules.

[trace567]

The trades in question were not accepted. Lorraine was given several warnings about their trade offers during the game by cyn and myself.

I will request Sim to check the trade offers made by lorraine in game 401499 on 20th July. To verify for players that appropriate action was taken.

I will not undo the ban unless Sim disagrees. Reason being players who make so many ridiculous trade offers in one game is very bad for all players on GM. It is behaviour like this that spoils games for many. So for the benefit of all players the ban will stand unless Sim disagrees.

Sim you may also like to check trade offers made in all games that day by Lorraine, and or their other user names. Also please check previous days trades for this player on their various user names.

[kingpin]

[trace567]

You might want this, but I really don't think players would like us to start posting copies of their in game chats.

I also think the greater GM population would in fact be pretty grateful and relieved that a player like this is now gone.

Look at the big picture, of all players, rather than keep trying to pick holes in moderators work here.

[kingpin]

[trace567]

And if I was to post the chat log, then what? Accusations of altering it since it would of course be copy and paste. Plus of course the logs are in time format so other players chats are mixed up in the log.

Lets have sim look over the entire game and see what he says.

[kingpin]

I just want to see how you both thretened to ban a player in game.

[judd]

[sim5]

After going through the game & chat logs i saw lorraine send crap trades again & again despite warning given to her by cyn & trace
what lorraine did was not good as she knew very well that trades which she was sending was not fair & was of no use
as in this game 2 mods were playing , after what they saw they try to stop lorraine for sending crap trades which i feel was a good gesture on their part but lorraine didnt stop she continue sending her silly trades, she was given enough warning by both mods but that also didnt work
after taking into all consideration i think banning some1 from game for sending crap trades without giving a official warning throug forum in my opinion is too harsh & incorrect
i would like trace & cyn to give her a warning through forum & if she will repeat such thing in future she should be banned
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[trace567]

125733 lorraine (conn) -10540 undo 2009-05-12 12:43:32 trace678 Cheat trade in game 382868 12th May with Claubertraxx. Teaming suspected. Points reduced by 50%.

125876 ELSON (conn) -3377 undo 2009-04-08 03:47:14 trace678 Accepting cheat trade -50%

136727 sartori (conn) -10352 undo 2009-06-10 23:44:07 CYN for cheat trade with thiaguito1986 on 6/10/9

136727 sartori (conn) -8665 undo 2009-05-17 21:53:41 trace678 -50% cheat trade with bad_boy_games game 384386 17 May.

All of the above were Lorraine. Enough warnings I'd say. Especially having 2 moderators stating in game to stop the cheat trade offers or you will end up banned.

[CYN]

Sim IF this was her first offense i would agree with you but it is not and she has been penalized before. I am leaving ban in place unless Gaz has us remove it, it will be over is less than two weeks anyway
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