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Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:22 am
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Bill2k06
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it is NOT going to be done , and if it was it would NOT be overnight, it would be a discussion for all to join in with, i just asked kreso if there is anything we could do about inactive players with top accounts that dont get played anymore.
ive askedfor a number of things, which i wont go into until mentioned on here, but trust me, noone is losing any points without community discussion.
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Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:31 am
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Right OK. How long has David been away for? Because he was a mod until quite recently, and so I am imagining he has played in the last few months.

Also he has apparently set up a Brazilian GM forum, and has been number 1 for as long as I have been here pretty much, which is about a year and a half. His points have not been stagnant in that time, but have approximately trippled. So yeah, how long since he last played?
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Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:39 am
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is that a retorical question or do you want me to go check when his last game was?

i was thinking of a decline of points after maybe 6months inactivity or something like that, and start losing points by a figure of around 10k a week
so 300k woud take 30weeks, which is nearly another year of inactivity to lose their full account balance.
Or maybe a figure of 10% a week as this would lose points at a less steep rate, as some players are on small points and are inactive.

personally i would prefer a loss by percentage per week basis but that is up for debate
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Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:45 am
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No it wasn't rhetorical, I was wondering how long it had been.

I would probably not agree with points self-destructing but I would like to see what arguments were raised in any debate.

One argument against is that players do have lives, and do need to take breaks, and it seems a bit unfair. On a related note, the game is kind of addictive already, I think it would be bad for players who care about points to know that if they didn't play for a week, a fortnight or a month, their points would be cut. It is nice to have it as a game you can dip in and out of, and old players would be less likely to come back if their accounts had shrunk back to where they started.

I mean, thevery creator of the game has been away for over a year - players getting punished in terms of points for doing that seems wrong.
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Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:48 am
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that is the ONLY point i have, as to NOT do it ,

but the pluses, are that players will look at the points table and see the top as achievable,

im torn between the two to be honest, and i think if in a poll i was asked i would say keep it as it is now, for the very reason,2 tournament wins and a few high profile wins, and you are up there.
also having a ''top 10'' ladder, show players what they have to aim for , and so that creates extra drive too
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Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:01 am
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inactivity hummm, ill play a couple of unrated games Very Happy
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Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:33 pm
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You have no need to play with that acc David. Its your personal acc and noone , even Kreso can't reduce your points . Its your personal record and acc and you have wright to do with it whatever you want ...play with or noth ..its your personal decision . We discus on that several times and I asked Kreso to protect all our acc . Thats the right way and the only way .
This Bill idea to reduce acc to inactive players is sad and patethic . Its like if world atletic federation decide to erase Bob Beamon record in long jump ( 8.90m ) so others can become new world record shampions in long jump . There is Bubka and many others . Why not erese ther records and start from begining ? Can it be done ? No way .
And one more thing... we discus many time about big prizes for tournaments .... and now its 70k for first place .... 70k today --- 100k tomorow .. and I even wont to think about prizes in future . Congrats to whoever decide to give so many points for first place . As long as I remember we decided in past that first place prizes would be max 30-40k .What happend with that ?
David ... for me and most of the players , you are ( for now ) the No1 on GM and first on record scale , and any reducing points or anything else , can't change that fakt . Thats my opinion . Bez
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Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:01 pm
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Bez,

I agree with your view about points - if they are fairly earned then it is not right to take them away.

About tournament prizes, check out this thread: http://www.galacticmag.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=33804#33804. It provides some interesting arguments for smaller prizes in tournament, and more spreadout points to players who get to the semi finals.
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Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:23 pm
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Yes MrCrabbs , i read your thread and I didnt post in it becouse we discused so many times about high prizes in past and in many threads . Iam tired to wrote about , how sad and anjustice is that someone , with only one tour , can go in top 20-30 players on list and only with 3-4 wins in one tournament . Iam not angru becouse someone get so many points but , the way he earn them its what make me sad . What about all other players who play month's to reach 50-60k or more ? What will they say about this easy giving points to people who come yesterday on GM and in one tour with little luck there he goes - on top 20-30 players . For me thats the bigest cheat on GM and this last tour should be posted in cheats and other complains thread .Thats my opinion .
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Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:34 pm
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Well what if we gave fee refunds to all players who made the semis or something. It might leave the number of peoplewho enter tournaments unchanged, but cut out the huge 1st, 2nd and 3rd place prizes.
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